Jesus Did Exist

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Tags: atheist  atheism  religion  jesus  church  bible  god  faith  christian  satan  science  creationism  evolution  islam  mormon   Description: As an Atheist and a former Christian, I am frequently confronted by Christians claiming that Jesus was real and I should believe in him again. These Christians fail to realize that I do believe Jesus existed. I believe he may have been crucified. I do not believe he rose from the dead. If Jesus existed then there are a few possibilities. He was either, the actual son of God, a con artist, a mentally deranged man, or a normal man that had embellished stories written about him after his death. We can examine evidence to determine which of these is most likely. For those who are not sure he existed, there are several people that have written about the existence of Jesus outside of the Bible. Cornelius Tacitus in 55 AD wrote that Christ suffered at the hands of Pontius Pilate. This is an example of a non biblical writer recording the existence of Jesus. There are several others. These writings make a strong argument for the existence of Jesus. But did Jesus have powers? In the past few decades several people have claimed to be God or a messenger from God. But in today's society these people are seen as con artist or delusional. There are a few who fall under the spell of deception and believe these people really have some magical powers or believe they are God, but the rest of us are not fooled. We know these people are not special and have no magical powers. We see their followers in highly emotional states claiming their new friend is the messiah, and we know they have been deceived or brainwashed. David Koresh made claims like this and had many people believing his deceit. Now he is dead, but there are still people who believe he was God. Yes, there are a few Branch Davidians still around. If his followers pass these beliefs onto their children and friends, in the future they may become just as numerous as the followers or other religions. Why is this any different than Mohamed, Joseph Smith, Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, or Jesus? We can clearly see that people that make these ludicrous claims today are not magical. Why is it any different when the story is passed down for thousands of years? Does the passage of time make the story more valid? Not one shred of evidence was left by any of Jesus' alleged miracles. Due to the lack of evidence and the sheer ridiculous nature of the stories I do not believe Jesus had any magical powers and was not the son of any God. So was Jesus a con artist? At the time of Jesus' life, knowledge about the world was only a fraction of what it is today. This advance is not just in science. People now question things that sound either too good to be true or not realistic. This type of questioning mind is far more advanced than primitive man. We know today that if a man is seen walking on water it is just a trick. If we see someone claiming to bend spoons with there mind, they are simple using slight of hand. No magical powers are needed to perform these deceptions. I am not claiming everyone today is a skeptic. Unfortunately we still have people today who believe in ESP, psychics, ghost, UFOs, Bigfoot, Unicorns, Dragons, and faith healers. These are the same people that would most likely believe someone claiming to be a messiah. Would it have been easier to fool people in the first century? Imagine, if Houdini had time traveled back to the first century and performed his illusions for hundreds of people and also claimed to be the son of God. Then today we would likely have millions of Houdini churches, with all the followers worshiping the magician. So was Jesus a con artist like Peter Popoff or Uri Gellar? Or did he really believe he had powers. Most magicians and physics are trying to make money with their tricks. According to the outside biblical references to Jesus, he seemed to be humble man and not very wealthy. Therefore I do not believe he was knowingly trying to deceive people for material gain. He did not seem to gain any wealth or social status with his claims. So, was Jesus delusional? If Jesus really believed he was the son of God and believed he possessed magical powers, he was delusional. This seems likely because Jesus was willing to die for his beliefs. Although being willing to die for a belief does not make the belief true. The Branch Davidians were willing to burn alive in the Waco compound for their delusion, and Muslims are certainly willing to blow themselves up for their beliefs. But dieing for a belief is the ultimate sacrifice. It shows a true commitment and shows the person truly does believe their claims. If any charlatan today was threatened with their life because of their alleged powers, they would most likely admit to the scam to save them self. Jesus was never recorded denouncing him claims. But were the stories about his teachings accurate?
Comments
CyberCommunist ::: Favorites  2008-01-29 08:57:29 UFOS really exist, it's the conspiracy theories and stories that draw skeptics. __________________________________________________
animalfan27 ::: Favorites  2008-01-28 19:40:30 I went back and looked up that joseephus account. In fairness the guy had the same first name as the bible jesus's brother "James". It is in all fairness very possible he existed. __________________________________________________
Requiem9001 ::: Favorites  2008-01-28 16:14:59 FightingAtheist you may want to give me a source of someone mentioning Jesus outside the Bible. I know of 4 people who mention, "The Christ" outside the Bible, but there were 2 other "Christ" walking about at the time of Jesus. So how do we know which of the three are Jesus? They were all stated as being very humble and kind men by their followers. __________________________________________________
Requiem9001 ::: Favorites  2008-01-28 16:11:59 Science: The collective discipline of study or learning acquired through the scientific method; the sum of knowledge gained from such methods and discipline. Biblical Science: The fact of knowing something; knowledge or understanding of a truth. Science for a faith isn't the same as a real science. They use two different methods to show "Truth" __________________________________________________
raywirges ::: Favorites  2008-01-27 21:06:45 Your profanity is funny! Not in a good way. It shows you are someone we should all listen to! EVER THINK OF GETTING FACTS BEFORE YOU SPEAK? The only thing wrong here is you! __________________________________________________

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