Wednesday, December 26, 2007

Dogma

Duration: 04:48 minutes
Upload Time: 2007-10-11 13:48:36
User: CapnOrdinary
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A video about what I would consider "the real problem". Links as promised in the video: thequestionmarkofGod - How did it happen so fast? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2r__Cqsm-Y CapnOAwesome - Religion and mob mentality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nB4IG4ks84 Myself - The Great Taboo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLoutwpU6V8

Comments

aarreeaa ::: Favorites  2007-12-22 21:50:49

Religion was invented as a tool to control the masses. Many canturies it worked very well. Selfish persons usend it to gain control. Recently religion (at least cristianity) lose influence. Who now need religion when sheeps opinion and belief can be manipulated thru television?
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-12-11 07:06:09

Well, yes and no. It seems you equate belief in a god with religion. Religion is more than just spirituality, it's a set of organized beliefs about the nature of god. Being spiritual or believing in god, these things I have no problem with. Religion, that's a different matter. Religion is spirituality that's been infected with dogma.
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Pwells1 ::: Favorites  2007-12-11 04:41:21

Wow, you've ust managed to undermine all of your arguments against religion itself. Bravo. You finally realized the real problem. DOGMA, which exists with every ideology. It is Dogma that we must erase, and there is no reason to erase spirituality along with it, for without DOGMA, belief in God can coexist with Science pretty easily.
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cyberaquarius ::: Favorites  2007-12-10 07:02:22

Dogma is the main Problem, if we could talk about Religion as we talk about Science a lot more People would start wondering and changing there minds. This is the fear of all religion beliefs! And Dogma secures them from it, if they say they have nothing to fear then why Dogmas?.. I don't believe und let me explain why.. For example I don't understand why God would made a human being that is homosexual and then crave people to hate them .. I could right on and on and on ;)
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ffrog1 ::: Favorites  2007-11-27 17:04:57

ok well that makes moe sense but if you look religion is being constantly updated e.g the pope or the prophet for mormrns
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-11-27 16:53:45

Dogma is unchanging. Science is constantly changing, as new facts come to light and theories are improved based on them. If you can't grasp the difference, then I simply can't explain it to you.
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ffrog1 ::: Favorites  2007-11-27 15:07:07

yes but it is still dogmatic according to your descripyon as it is somthing that is autorative you dont mention any thing about if it can be discounted for any reason. all i can tell you is he his called Dr Ron (not sure how it is spelt) i will give you his full name on my next post
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-11-26 18:38:13

I'm sorry, but that does not make any sense. Any given scientific theory is accepted as authoritative, yes, with the caveat that should ANY contradicting evidence turn up, the theory is immediately and automatically discarded, or at the very least amended to account for it. As for your quote, I'm going to at least need a name if I'm to look it up. Otherwise, I'm going to have to dismiss it on lack of evidence.
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ffrog1 ::: Favorites  2007-11-26 17:44:26

i got that by your defonition/the oxford dictionary saying that it is an a code of beleifs that is accepted as authorative this is what you made sceince become by saying it isnt dogmatic you are saying it isnt open to interpretation our opion. the best i can do is say it is a quote from the head of physics at tonbridge school who has a doctoret in both maths and physics
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-11-26 16:32:06

LOL by saying science isn't dogmatic I proved that science is dogmatic? How do you figure? Of course you're allowed to question big bang cosmology, so long as you can present some evidence. Could you list a source for your 7Hz background radiation claim?
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ffrog1 ::: Favorites  2007-11-26 13:52:58

no there is evidence against the theory of big bang for example the background radiation that was predicted by the formula that created the big bang theory is 7Hz of the predicted wavelength. also you have proved that sceince is dogmatic by saying it isn't dogmatic i am not allowed to question the bigbang there are lots of other sceintific theorys on how the universe was created.
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-11-25 18:35:02

Science is not dogmatic, that's the whole point. For an explanation to qualify as a scientific theory, it must explain every single fact we have, and there must be no contrary evidence. Any single contrary piece of evidence, and the theory is dismissed. Therefore, the "just a theory" argument is not valid.
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ffrog1 ::: Favorites  2007-11-25 18:29:31

is there not a large amount of DOGMA about sceince i am a roman catholic how believes in science. but not the BIG BANG i believe God kicked it all off not just atoms jumping from nowere. and a lot people say to mean well the big bang is sceince it has to be right (infact the big bang is just a theory) so is there not a lot of DOGMA about sceince?? thus meaning if we got rid of dogma we would have nothing to explain how we got here at all
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CapnOrdinary ::: Favorites  2007-10-30 18:46:11

When religion causes no harm, it is obviously not harmful. That's a bit of a tautology. But in my opinion there's a difference between believing in god(s) and being religious. The difference is dogma. I still find believing in god kind of silly, but I did so myself for 25 years, so I can hardly hold that against anyone. I aim to attack the religious dogma, more than the concept of faith.
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lookaduck66 ::: Favorites  2007-10-30 17:54:17

OK, so what about non-dogmatic religious people? They believe in God seemingly as an answer, they question specifics and are far from believing everything in the Bible, or that their priest tells them. I agree that Dogma is essentially celebrated ignorance, but what about more intelligent religious beliefs. FYI I'm an atheist, but my parents are Christian and I don't think they are as harmful as some, and they are usually willing to have an intelligent discussion on religion.
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